Great to hear Coleman discussing his book and its ideas. The age thing is over. He is a grizzled veteran. It is amazing to be writing op-eds in major publications when you are in college, but now he is older than Paul McCartney and George Harrison were when the Beatles broke up.
Woman scientist here. As a graduate student was told "I don't take women you'll only quit to have babies/" Later was the first woman postdoc in a lab that had existed for over 25 years. Was hired not because of diversity but because the lab leader had the hots for me. Went on to be tenured faculty at an Ivy League Medical School and later an executive at a major corporation. Two children and grandchildren later never quit. I would have appreciated being a diversity hire as getting a foot in the door in a very sexist environment would have been a relief.
Maybe, but also can see race/gender blind as first step -- now you only have qualified applicants but at that point give some extra effort to elevate those not male white and heterosexual until there is some minimum level of representation. Right now according to Fortune "Black CEO representation on the Fortune 500 is so bad that this year’s 1.6% is a near-record high." My experience is that this is partially based on actual racism or a hire people that are like you. Acknowledging this seems reasonable. So many times of being the only woman in the room with 25 or 30 men or the other women are all waitresses is pretty depressing.
Re: whereabouts of royals, the non-news about Russians royals 100 years ago today was probably very relevant because of the Bolshevik revolution in 1917, which slaughtered a bunch of the royal family and made survivors into celebrities
My pedantic takeaway from this conversation is that Coleman knows how to pronounce the plural of words that end in 's' (bias, process, etc.) and Jeff does not. Pedantry aside, it was a good discussion.
I really appreciate this interview. That being said, whenever someone says that people should write whatever they want (which wasn't exactly what you said, to be fair) I'm reminded of the book "the boy in the striped pajamas". There are a lot of really good analysises of why this book is bad, and should never be taught in schools with regards to Holocaust education, which I encourage anyone to Google.
There is nothing wrong with goyim telling Jewish stories, but there is a danger that needs to be recognised when you are telling someone else's story, that I'm not sure is adequately addressed here.
Also, I found it amusing how Belfast was described as not being very diverse. Protestants and Catholics are two very distinct groups, particularly at that time! There's a real issue with filtering any conversation about diversity through a black/white American lens. (this is more directed at Jeff, Coleman seemed to understand this, when he sounded taken aback as describing Nazis and Jews as homogenous).
Great to hear Coleman discussing his book and its ideas. The age thing is over. He is a grizzled veteran. It is amazing to be writing op-eds in major publications when you are in college, but now he is older than Paul McCartney and George Harrison were when the Beatles broke up.
Woman scientist here. As a graduate student was told "I don't take women you'll only quit to have babies/" Later was the first woman postdoc in a lab that had existed for over 25 years. Was hired not because of diversity but because the lab leader had the hots for me. Went on to be tenured faculty at an Ivy League Medical School and later an executive at a major corporation. Two children and grandchildren later never quit. I would have appreciated being a diversity hire as getting a foot in the door in a very sexist environment would have been a relief.
Don’t you think a race/gender blind application process would have also greatly benefitted you (without the added side effects of feeling tokenized?)
Maybe, but also can see race/gender blind as first step -- now you only have qualified applicants but at that point give some extra effort to elevate those not male white and heterosexual until there is some minimum level of representation. Right now according to Fortune "Black CEO representation on the Fortune 500 is so bad that this year’s 1.6% is a near-record high." My experience is that this is partially based on actual racism or a hire people that are like you. Acknowledging this seems reasonable. So many times of being the only woman in the room with 25 or 30 men or the other women are all waitresses is pretty depressing.
Re: whereabouts of royals, the non-news about Russians royals 100 years ago today was probably very relevant because of the Bolshevik revolution in 1917, which slaughtered a bunch of the royal family and made survivors into celebrities
Rather, made it quite salient to know the happenings of those who survived
My pedantic takeaway from this conversation is that Coleman knows how to pronounce the plural of words that end in 's' (bias, process, etc.) and Jeff does not. Pedantry aside, it was a good discussion.
I really appreciate this interview. That being said, whenever someone says that people should write whatever they want (which wasn't exactly what you said, to be fair) I'm reminded of the book "the boy in the striped pajamas". There are a lot of really good analysises of why this book is bad, and should never be taught in schools with regards to Holocaust education, which I encourage anyone to Google.
There is nothing wrong with goyim telling Jewish stories, but there is a danger that needs to be recognised when you are telling someone else's story, that I'm not sure is adequately addressed here.
Also, I found it amusing how Belfast was described as not being very diverse. Protestants and Catholics are two very distinct groups, particularly at that time! There's a real issue with filtering any conversation about diversity through a black/white American lens. (this is more directed at Jeff, Coleman seemed to understand this, when he sounded taken aback as describing Nazis and Jews as homogenous).